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268190 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑03‑23 Photos
Phellow Photogggraphers

A neighbor jsut gave me a nice camera that she has not used for about 5 years -
digital SLR, NIkon L110.  It is fairly easy to use, but does not have the
ability to independently adjust aperture or shutter speed - but there are lots
and lots of auto setting and an auto-auto function that seems to work most of
the time.

It is doing something I can’t understand or process out.  In my shop, under
fluorescent lights, things show up yellow - very yellow.  Even after playing
around in the editing section of the Mac, they are not anywhere near right. And
the yellow does not show up til after the shot os taken so there is no adjusting
it out before shooting - and besides, the white balance adjustment does not do
it.  Here is the best I can do with this particular shot:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/40485491093/in/album-72157706524329895/

click to the left a few shots and you can see what my point and shoot Canon does
- pretty good

Any suggestion from those of you who do a beautiful job in photographing your
stuff??  Even if you are no good at it like I am, any ideas?

Ed Minch
268191 gary may 2019‑03‑23 Re: Photos
Ed:

   Is this a drive-by gloat on an exquisite set of shelves finished in Gibson's
TV Yellow?

                   J'accuse!
                
                       it's a beautiful day in OlyWA, you'd be in shirtsleeves
wearing a hat, if you were here


How horrible it is to have so many people killed!---And what a blessing one
cares for none of them!
Jane Austen 

    On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 3:24:11 PM PDT, Ed Minch  wrote:
 
 Phellow Photogggraphers

A neighbor jsut gave me a nice camera that she has not used for about 5 years -
digital SLR, NIkon L110.  It is fairly easy to use, but does not have the
ability to independently adjust aperture or shutter speed - but there are lots
and lots of auto setting and an auto-auto function that seems to work most of
the time.

It is doing something I can’t understand or process out.  In my shop, under
fluorescent lights, things show up yellow - very yellow.  Even after playing
around in the editing section of the Mac, they are not anywhere near right. And
the yellow does not show up til after the shot os taken so there is no adjusting
it out before shooting - and besides, the white balance adjustment does not do
it.  Here is the best I can do with this particular shot:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/40485491093/in/album-72157706524329895/

click to the left a few shots and you can see what my point and shoot Canon does
- pretty good

Any suggestion from those of you who do a beautiful job in photographing your
stuff??  Even if you are no good at it like I am, any ideas?

Ed Minch
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268192 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑03‑23 Re: Photos
It is not sir, and I resemble that remark.  I am making something that I will
share with all of you in a while when it is done, but for now I need the ability
to take pictures or you will never see it.

Ed Minch
268193 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑03‑24 Re: Photos
Ed

There is a firmware update for that camera which purportedly fixes that 
issue.

https://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/29.html

Don't lose power while you're updating it!

Don

On 2019-03-23 4:22 p.m., Ed Minch wrote:
> A neighbor jsut gave me a nice camera that she has not used for about 5 years
- digital SLR, NIkon L110.  It is fairly easy to use, but does not have the
ability to independently adjust aperture or shutter speed - but there are lots
and lots of auto setting and an auto-auto function that seems to work most of
the time.
>
> It is doing something I can’t understand or process out.  In my shop, under
fluorescent lights, things show up yellow - very yellow.  Even after playing
around in the editing section of the Mac, they are not anywhere near right. And
the yellow does not show up til after the shot os taken so there is no adjusting
it out before shooting - and besides, the white balance adjustment does not do
it.


-- 
“Nature does not care for your opinion.” Robin Coope

A thermometer is not liberal or conservative. - Katharine Hayhoe

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.
Thomas Paine

Being offended doesn't make you right.
268194 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑03‑24 Re: Photos
> On Mar 24, 2019, at 1:53 AM, Don Schwartz  wrote:
> 
> Ed
> 
> There is a firmware update for that camera which purportedly fixes that issue.
> 
> https:
//downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/29.html <https://do
wnloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/download/fw/29.html">https://downloadcenter.niko
nimglib.com/en/download/fw/29.html>
> 
> Don't lose power while you're updating it!
> 
> Don


bingo - Don hit the nail on the head (with a vintage hammer no doubt)

Here is a shot I just took and posted with no manipulation, then go back one to
left to see the one that I posted with LOTS of manipulation to get it away from
the extreme orange/yellow that it was.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/46539673605/in/album-72157706524
329895/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/46539673605/in/album-72157706524
329895/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/46539673605/in/albu
m-72157706524329895/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/46539673605/in/albu
m-72157706524329895/>

 I had done everything that the manual suggested, and the strange thing is that
the new firware was dated 2010, and many of the criticisms I read were from
later years, even 2014.  Did Nikon know about their own update?

Thanks Don, and all who sent me suggestions

Ed Minch
268198 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑03‑24 Re: Photos
On 2019-03-24 4:34 a.m., Ed Minch wrote:
> I had done everything that the manual suggested, and the strange thing 
> is that the new firware was dated 2010, and many of the criticisms I 
> read were from later years, even 2014.  Did Nikon know about their own 
> update?
>
> Thanks Don, and all who sent me suggestions

You're welcome. I think many, if not most people are simply unaware that 
firmware updates are very frequently available for digital hardware, 
much of which is shipped for sale before it is really completely ready 
for the big-time. It is common with both hardware and software, either 
because the companies don't know of deficiencies, or because they simply 
want to start generating income from a product to cover the cost of 
development. As I understand it, release dates are often dictated by 
marketing and finance depts. rather than engineering. So it's generally 
worthwhile checking mfrs' websites for updates.

FWIW

Don

-- 
“Nature does not care for your opinion.” Robin Coope

A thermometer is not liberal or conservative. - Katharine Hayhoe

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.
Thomas Paine

Being offended doesn't make you right.
268215 "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n...> 2019‑03‑26 Re: Photos
Hi Ed

You need to look at the white balance settings either do a custom one, or set it
to florescent.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/113016/Nikon-Coolpix-L110.html?page=65

Pete

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Subject: [OldTools] Photos

Phellow Photogggraphers

A neighbor jsut gave me a nice camera that she has not used for about 5 years -
digital SLR, NIkon L110.  It is fairly easy to use, but does not have the
ability to independently adjust aperture or shutter speed - but there are lots
and lots of auto setting and an auto-auto function that seems to work most of
the time.

It is doing something I can’t understand or process out.  In my shop, under
fluorescent lights, things show up yellow - very yellow.  Even after playing
around in the editing section of the Mac, they are not anywhere near right. And
the yellow does not show up til after the shot os taken so there is no adjusting
it out before shooting - and besides, the white balance adjustment does not do
it.  Here is the best I can do with this particular shot:

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click to the left a few shots and you can see what my point and shoot Canon does
- pretty good

Any suggestion from those of you who do a beautiful job in photographing your
stuff??  Even if you are no good at it like I am, any ideas?

Ed Minch
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268222 Kevin Foley <kevin.m.foley@c...> 2019‑03‑27 Re: A tale...
Since I read this tale it has been stuck in my mind like an earworm.  I am
always uncomfortable buying a tool plus a story.  I can usually figure out what
the tool is worth but how much extra do I pay for the story?  I like to think I
limit my buying on that site to well-photographed user tools but I sometimes
fail.  I'm glad you pursued it and got the listing taken down.  The tool will
resurface somewhere but in what guise?  I like that you made the "I'll take the
damaged but useable tool, keep the story" offer.  Conversely, a bunch of years
ago, I saw a plane on the 'bay that I knew the backstory because I had just read
it in Hack's book on planes but the seller didn't. The seller seemed to be
selling it for somebody else and got bad advise, or took a bad guess as to what
it was.  In the "questions" below the listing a fracas broke out where names
were called and people's lineage and compos mentis were questioned. I thought it
was amusing and put in a low-ball bid and went on to other things assuming
people who knew more would be duking it out in the last 4 seconds. I was
surprised to find the next day that I won the auction.  I don't use it so I
sometimes think of selling it.  I can guess what it's worth as a tool but how
much is the story worth? It was small maker that made a scant few planes and
went quietly away.  I've not seen another for sale.  Maybe the story isn't worth
anything.  In the end it will sell for fiddy cents at the garage sale after I
croak.
268223 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑03‑27 Re: A tale...
Kevin

What’s your address??

Could you share a photo of this mythical plane shaped object?

Ed Minch
268224 Kevin Foley <kevin.m.foley@c...> 2019‑03‑28 Re: A tale...
Ed,

Address?  I wasn’t planning my post-mortem garage sale for this weekend,  but
I’ll check with my wife.

Photos — can do. Crummy cell phone picks.  Better pics of the same model on p.
239 of Garrett Hack’s The Handplane Book if anyone still has a copy.

https://kfoley.smugmug.com/Reed/

It was made by Jeff Warshafsky aka Reed Plane Co.  He set out to make a Norris-
type planes in the 80’s. Road hugging weight seems to have been a design
parameter. After taking pictures I put it on the scale.  It’s 7 lbs, 5 oz. The
wood work is a little — uh… elementary? Some of the hardware looks ala McMaster
Carr.  He picked what was thought to be a really good off-the-shelf iron at the
time, a Berg Cryo. Nice, but standard bench plane fare by weight and not near
the heft of the irons in the Norris planes he was trying to emulate.  And the
iron on the Reed beds on metal not wood like the better Norris planes. A gallant
effort but the story goes that at a few more than 100 planes he was looking at
too many hours at a Bridgeport mill for too few dollars and went on to other
things.

Cheers,

Kevin
268225 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2019‑03‑28 Re: A tale...
Nice looking wood - does it work worth anything??

Ed Minch
268226 Kevin Foley <kevin.m.foley@c...> 2019‑03‑28 Re: A tale...
Yes.  They were delivered finely tuned. It works well. The 1980’s price sticker
reads $449.  Not that anybody ever paid a lot of money for a tool that didn’t
work well.

Kevin
268235 W Pickens <ws.pickens@w...> 2019‑03‑31 Re: Photos
Back in the days of silver base (film) photography there were filters to put on
the front of the lens for this sort of problem.
There were also large glass sheets for use in theater lighting.
Have fun
Sam Pickens

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