Hello from Rimouski,

         I'm a small boat maniac, building and messing about in them. I
started with handtools because they are a lot more convenient to adjust
joints in a boat (everything is compound curved, crooked and never fits
according to measurements...) than p*w*r tools, and they're cheaper.
        Got into furniture making when friends made rude remarks about my
make-shift student furniture and something to the effect that I had enough
boats (saying you have enough boats is like saying you have enough
handplanes...) So, looked around for different styles of furniture,
discovered Shaker and  Arts and Crafts furniture. Made a few pieces with
p*w*r tools and decided  to continue with a mix of p*w*r  and hand tools. I
work mostly with yellow birch, anyline dies, finish with a scraper (hate
sandpaper!) and use a varnish/oil mixture.
        I looked around locally for oldtools, nothing, nada, zlicht!
probably worst than Texas... Canadian-US exchange rates are murder, in
despair I started cutting back on beer (Sleeman's Dark Original) and dog
biscuits (I have a dog...) to be able to buy from a US dealer (any canadian
oldtool dealers out there?). Out of the blue a  toolchest finds its way in
the back of my truck.

Contents:
Stanley/Bailey #3, #5, #7 (types 15-18)
#220 (recent), #80 scraper, #63 and #151 spokeshaves,
#78 (missing fence and depth adj.)
Wooden plane: SCIOTO(?) WORKS 15, 16 in. long, razee type rear end with
tote, metal plate screwed to the bottom.

Disston D7 (nib) 10 pt cross., Disston 10 pt cross.(looks like a short
Compact model),
Disston 6 pt rip

Stanley #923 10 in. brace (rosewood handles ?)
Hand drill, heavy machined castings, hollow wooden handle, no markings.

This would be the gloat part, since I paid less than $100 (CANADIAN !!!) for
a basic Galoot starter kit.        

I'm still searching for a virgin white goat to sacrifice in thanks to the
great TOOL GOD...

        Back to lurking, still learning a lot, hope to have something to add
once in a while.

Louis Michaud
Rimouski, Quebec

Louis disait:

> I'm still searching for a virgin white goat to sacrifice in thanks to the
> great TOOL GOD...
> 
It's not a virgin white goat, it's a virgin piece of timber, or a bit of your
blood when you get careless with something ScarySharp.....   ;-)

Soit le bienvenu, et lis mon bio...

Esther eoh@k...

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Louis, When it rains it pours...another boater. Welcome, brother. And
congrats on the nice toolkit. As I suppose you have seen (whilst
lurking) there are a few boating types here. Although I am building
(well, re-building) a 32 foot sailboat, I am also presently trying to
decide on a nice design for a small boat that I can build in my shop
while it's too cold to work on the sailboat in the unheated shed. I want
to do a Gloucester type dory with a small sail rig and two rowing
stations. I think dories are beautiful. What kind of small boats do you
like, strike that, are you obsessed with (because it can only be an
obsession)? Anyway, welcome, from a relative newcomer here who also
loves to mess about in boats.... Mark Lane New York

Louis Michaud wrote:

> Hello from Rimouski,
>
>          I'm a small boat maniac, building and messing about in them.
>          I started with handtools because they are a lot more
>          convenient to adjust joints in a boat (everything is compound
>          curved, crooked and never fits according to measurements...)
>          than p*w*r tools, and they're cheaper. Got into furniture
>          making when friends made rude remarks about my make-shift
>          student furniture and something to the effect that I had
>          enough boats (saying you have enough boats is like saying you
>          have enough handplanes...) So, looked around for different
>          styles of furniture, discovered Shaker and Arts and Crafts
>          furniture. Made a few pieces with p*w*r tools and decided to
>          continue with a mix of p*w*r and hand tools. I work mostly
>          with yellow birch, anyline dies, finish with a scraper (hate
>          sandpaper!) and use a varnish/oil mixture. I looked around
>          locally for oldtools, nothing, nada, zlicht! probably worst
>          than Texas... Canadian-US exchange rates are murder, in
>          despair I started cutting back on beer (Sleeman's Dark
>          Original) and dog biscuits (I have a dog...) to be able to
>          buy from a US dealer (any canadian oldtool dealers out
>          there?). Out of the blue a toolchest finds its way in the
>          back of my truck.
>
> Contents: Stanley/Bailey #3, #5, #7 (types 15-18)
> #220 (recent), #80 scraper, #63 and #151 spokeshaves, 78 (missing
> #fence and depth adj.)
> Wooden plane: SCIOTO(?) WORKS 15, 16 in. long, razee type rear end
> with tote, metal plate screwed to the bottom.
>
> Disston D7 (nib) 10 pt cross., Disston 10 pt cross.(looks like a short
> Compact model), Disston 6 pt rip
>
> Stanley #923 10 in. brace (rosewood handles ?) Hand drill, heavy
> machined castings, hollow wooden handle, no markings.
>
> This would be the gloat part, since I paid less than $100 (CANADIAN
> !!!) for a basic Galoot starter kit.
>
> I'm still searching for a virgin white goat to sacrifice in thanks to
> the great TOOL GOD...
>
>         Back to lurking, still learning a lot, hope to have something
>         to add once in a while.
>
> Louis Michaud Rimouski, Quebec Canada Louis Michaud Bibliothecaire,
> Secteur science et technologie Service de la bibliotheque Universite
> du Quebec a Rimouski 300, allee des Ursulines Rimouski, Quebec G5L 3A1
>
> tel:(418)723-1986, poste 1213 fax:(418)724-1621 louis_michaud@u...
>
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Take a look at john gardner's first book.  Lots of dories in there.

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From: J. Mark Lane 
To: louis_michaud@UQAR.UQuebec.CA 
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Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Bio/kinda gloat

>Louis,
>When it rains it pours...another boater.  Welcome, brother.  And congrats
on the
>nice toolkit.  As I suppose you have seen (whilst lurking) there are a few
>boating types here.  Although I am building (well, re-building) a 32 foot
>sailboat, I am also presently trying to decide on a nice design for a small
boat
>that I can build in my shop while it's too cold to work on the sailboat in
the
>unheated shed.  I want to do a Gloucester type dory with a small sail rig
and
>two rowing stations.  I think dories are beautiful.  What kind of small
boats do
>you like, strike that, are you obsessed with (because it can only be an
>obsession)?  Anyway, welcome, from a relative newcomer here who also loves
to
>mess about in boats....
>Mark Lane
>New York
>
>Louis Michaud wrote:
>
>> Hello from Rimouski,
>>
>>          I'm a small boat maniac, building and messing about in them. I
>> started with handtools because they are a lot more convenient to adjust
>> joints in a boat (everything is compound curved, crooked and never fits
>> according to measurements...) than p*w*r tools, and they're cheaper.
>>         Got into furniture making when friends made rude remarks about my
>> make-shift student furniture and something to the effect that I had
enough
>> boats (saying you have enough boats is like saying you have enough
>> handplanes...) So, looked around for different styles of furniture,
>> discovered Shaker and  Arts and Crafts furniture. Made a few pieces with
>> p*w*r tools and decided  to continue with a mix of p*w*r  and hand tools.
I
>> work mostly with yellow birch, anyline dies, finish with a scraper (hate
>> sandpaper!) and use a varnish/oil mixture.
>>         I looked around locally for oldtools, nothing, nada, zlicht!
>> probably worst than Texas... Canadian-US exchange rates are murder, in
>> despair I started cutting back on beer (Sleeman's Dark Original) and dog
>> biscuits (I have a dog...) to be able to buy from a US dealer (any
canadian
>> oldtool dealers out there?). Out of the blue a  toolchest finds its way
in
>> the back of my truck.
>>
>> Contents:
>> Stanley/Bailey #3, #5, #7 (types 15-18)
>> #220 (recent), #80 scraper, #63 and #151 spokeshaves,
>> #78 (missing fence and depth adj.)
>> Wooden plane: SCIOTO(?) WORKS 15, 16 in. long, razee type rear end with
>> tote, metal plate screwed to the bottom.
>>
>> Disston D7 (nib) 10 pt cross., Disston 10 pt cross.(looks like a short
>> Compact model),
>> Disston 6 pt rip
>>
>> Stanley #923 10 in. brace (rosewood handles ?)
>> Hand drill, heavy machined castings, hollow wooden handle, no markings.
>>
>> This would be the gloat part, since I paid less than $100 (CANADIAN !!!)
for
>> a basic Galoot starter kit.
>>
>> I'm still searching for a virgin white goat to sacrifice in thanks to the
>> great TOOL GOD...
>>
>>         Back to lurking, still learning a lot, hope to have something to
add
>> once in a while.
>>
>> Louis Michaud
>> Rimouski, Quebec
>> Canada
>> Louis Michaud
>> Bibliothecaire, Secteur science et technologie
>> Service de la bibliotheque
>> Universite du Quebec a Rimouski
>> 300, allee des Ursulines
>> Rimouski, Quebec
>> G5L 3A1
>>
>> tel:(418)723-1986, poste 1213
>> fax:(418)724-1621
>> louis_michaud@u...
>>
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At 10:02 PM 1/26/98 -0500, Bruce Kantelis wrote:
>Take a look at john gardner's first book.  Lots of dories in there.
>
>Regards,
>Bruce J. Kantelis

Dory-Loving Galoots,
			Iain Oughtred sells the plans for 4 sailing dories, ranging from 15 to
18 feet.  His plans are detailed, his designs beautiful, and his
instructions concise.  He sells a catalog of about 30 designs--prams to
keel boats.  Most are glued lap clinker (lapstrake) marine plywood.  He can
reached at:

	Gorton House Cottage
	Lasswade
	Edinburgh  EH181EH
	Scotland

	Telephone 031 440 0828

-Gil, still in Michigan

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GDLGs, FWIW, I met John Gardner once, about fifteen years ago. He was
one of those special people. I have seen the Oughtred designs and they
are beautiful. Would love to build one. Unfortunately, with the larger
project looming over my head, I'm afraid to undertake a lapstrake boat
right now, and am leaning toward a simply plywood (oops, is that a taboo
word here?) design. Possibly one of the Glenn-L dories. Something that I
can literally put together in two or three easy weekends and drop in the
water in April for messing about while the big project goes on and on.
BTW, for a couple of interesting dory-related sites, see:
http://www.globalserve.net/~hdmclean/index.html and
http://www.mbl.edu/html/gull/gull.html Thanks. Mark

Gil Chesbro wrote:

> At 10:02 PM 1/26/98 -0500, Bruce Kantelis wrote:
> >Take a look at john gardner's first book. Lots of dories in there.
> >
> >Regards, Bruce J. Kantelis
>
> Dory-Loving Galoots, Iain Oughtred sells the plans for 4 sailing
> dories, ranging from 15 to 18 feet. His plans are detailed, his
> designs beautiful, and his instructions concise. He sells a catalog of
> about 30 designs--prams to keel boats. Most are glued lap clinker
> (lapstrake) marine plywood. He can reached at:
>
>         Gorton House Cottage Lasswade Edinburgh EH181EH Scotland
>
>         Telephone 031 440 0828
>
> -Gil, still in Michigan
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Gil, I was wondering when you'd jump in!

My Pair of Pennies:
   Airfares are really low right now...

   Why not go see Iain in person?
   Edinburgh is a fantastic place to visit!
   Bed and breakfasts are plentiful, and cost
   about US$36 per night per person.
   If anyone cares, I have a few phone 
   numbers of great B&Bs.
   I didn't have the opportunity to really search
   for Scottish rust, but it's got to be there, right?
   Go ahead and do it!

Wes,
    who would move to Edinburgh is a second, if he could.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:03:36 -0600, Wesley Groot wrote:

>   Why not go see Iain in person?
>   Edinburgh is a fantastic place to visit!
>   Bed and breakfasts are plentiful, and cost
>   about US$36 per night per person.

If you do go to Edinburgh, I have two suggestions.

1. Try to see the Russel Collection of Keyboard Instruments
in St Cecilia's Hall, Cowgate (off the Royal Mile)--that
is, if you have any interest in old woodcraft.

2. Dine at Wee Windaes, a second floor establishment on the
Royal Mile that aims to recapture Scots quisine "as it was
before any French influence." 

I was there on an evening when Germany beat England in
football (soccer). The Scots were all rooting for Germany,
and the English journalists in our group stayed in the
hotel.

When the Germans won, the (extremely large) lady who runs
the restaurant came into the room to announce it, and
literally kicked up her heels. We were astonished that she
could get both feet off the floor at once, but she did,
long enough to kick them together and land properly.

Many other beautiful things to see there involving
woodworking, in ancient building interiors, etc.

Rodney Myrvaagnes        J36 Gjo/a     rodneym@i...
20 years without a car, TV, or website

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In a message dated 98-01-27 15:54:04 EST, you write:

> 2. Dine at Wee Windaes, a second floor establishment on the
>  Royal Mile that aims to recapture Scots quisine "as it was
>  before any French influence." 
>  

Yup,

tatties 'n neeps and boiled mutton. Yum.

Cheers/Don Carron
clan MacDonnel of Glengarry

Oldtools content... ever try to eat boiled mutton without an axe?

Rodney, I just was reminded (correctly) that this list keeps very close to the
topic. We may have too much boatbuilding and harpsichord content in this
thread. Ever polished a spitoon? No fun.

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At 12:03 PM 1/27/98 -0600, Wesley Groot wrote:

>My Pair of Pennies:
>   Airfares are really low right now...
>   Why not go see Iain in person?
>   Edinburgh is a fantastic place to visit!
>   Bed and breakfasts are plentiful, and cost
>   about US$36 per night per person.

Come on!  We can do better than that!  I say let's get all the Galoots
together in Chicago and build 40-foot blue-water sailer.  All wood, put
together with nothing but handtools in honor of our woodworking forebears.
Esther, start work on the sails.  Once the ice is off Lake Michigan, we'll
sail north, through the Straits of Mackinac, down Lake Huron, down the St.
Clair River, past Detroit, across Lakes Erie and Ontario, down the St.
Lawrence Seaway, across the North Atlantic, round the north coast of
Ireland, through the Pentland Firth, down the North Sea, up the Firth of
Forth, round the Black Rocks into Edinburgh Harbor, where we'll ask Mr.
Oughtred his opinion on the ultimate wooden sailing dinghy that can be
built in just 3 weekends.

Whose with me then, lads?  For Galootdom and Glory!

-Barnacle Gil, the Sailor, who'll probably lose his ration of grog for this
post.

-Gil, still in Michigan

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